Search Filter Free products only Discount Formats Free products only Reset filters Free So here on CGt I could have just asked the buyer if he would be interested in that sort of deal. However, if you are found to be out of compliance again, your collection will be taken offline for a more extended period of time. "that is where the big money can be", being able to part with an invention has value. TS has more sales because : CGtrader might have better conditions, rules and everything but it's useless if it doesn't attract more buyers. After that response I selected all my models and took them offline. Each sold model you can find anyone time in a download center. TurboSquid is not a company that practices any kind of #FairBusiness, and there is many other cases from other people stating the same for different reasons: I am huge fan of the CGT team because they really try hard to make us happy. Determining the optimal cost of the models is an important and difficult moment. In this case you could say (in a nutshell) CGt is (at its core) acting as a hub providing file hosting and transaction services, and it can basically do so whit everything digital. Care to share your time machine? First of all make great and spectacular models for it and promote it on forums, facebook, linkedin groups and forums. While this tactic worked very well at first and allowed to draw that many sellers in relatively short period of time, now it's time to think about buyers, as without them sellers will start to starve. The rewords for selling objects from others could for example be 1 CGcredit for tier 1, 2 for tier2, 3 for tier3, 4 for tier4 and so on. 3D is great for creating things that can restore old products. I can't download that lamp and see it's quality myself - so why would I purchase anything from the creator when I don't know if I'll be satisfied? I don't think it's possible to have WORKING site with both 3d printing and classic models. And therefore it doesnt matter where it is. - Fixing some guidelines to upload quality models (at least assuring that obj models, for instance, if textured, should have a proper .mtl file, limiting the models to quads/tris, imposing materials and textures to have understandable names, etc. A very interesting idea about the stores and collections. In something limonadinis says is true, but I agree with tomislavveg. I guess CGTrader should send out advertising to the companies, but I'm sure they are doing/done it already. That's why I won't model one single model for online sale until this heinous situation is rectified. Maybe they think Ts provides almost same model but its just better, etc. This concept is not new and it seems to work well over here (http://market.envato.com/) They recently changed their search engine over there and when you search for Free models it comes up with a few free ones and many more paid ones so from that perspective Turbosquid makes your life even harder lol. These people quote Sun Tzu when you talk to them, so guess their future plans for you. It still remains a puzzle to me, were those few now actually using their CGt account because there was no other way or did I just lose those and just gained some new clients from somewhere ells? Right now, low quality models flooding this site are attracting the low budget people - that's certainly why high quality objects with pricings in accordance don't sell that much. Renderer: Cyclse. Products are subject to the TurboSquid, Inc. We finally have some real genuine completion for the best sales platform. Putting 3D printing as the main product range on first page doesn't help, as has been noted. Offering customers best prices on TurboSquid is mandatory for all artists publishing on TurboSquid. And in terms of openness and freedom CGTrader is the first. A real pointless task. Maybe it is unnecessary complex? This would have probably be true for newcomers 5 years ago, but now that is different. CG Trader. Add a Payment Method, Add a Payment So in this case you could say we are the asses and there's lots of us so we form a huge ass and CGt can place many chairs for us to sit on ;-) I started uploading some of my items to cg trader to see if it generated any income but as I have 70+ items and 0 sales I have decided to stop. To bad this place is ridiculously expensive, you only get 33% of your sales. They simply do not get the idea that Turbosquid is just another reseller for the real product developers, and Turbosquid management and "rules" promote exactly that. Doesnt matter the kind of kinky-dinky stuff the platform provides me. It would be mess. [a=http://www.google.com] google6[/a] The fact that you can upload models immediately rather than waiting 3 months for them to get reviewed by some random people that won't have the time + the website design and the community inside CGTrader. The next thing CGT needs to do is get in with Ebay, Amazon, walmart etc places where everyone buys not just 3D enthusiasts and that regular people trust with their money. While there is some sellers that naively think they can rely on Turbosquid's good will to improve their situation in the future, the rest of us should be start working together towards a collective benefit. It also seems to me like CG trader is looking out a lot more for the artists. Uploading new product is so much more intuitive and easier than TS. Thank you again! Without checkmate Turbosquid would have gone out of business. Then we're all back at Square one again. On TS buyer cant do such thing, he needs to contact support on TS. And good thing that you decided to tell about - such things should go public and be discussed. "This is new era, time of old fashioned corporatism is going to be over. That is why I like to use Apple as the example of preference. This would allow genuine potential buyers to check the quality of models. We are writing to inform you that we are taking your content offline for 60 days as you have continued to change your prices to be higher on TurboSquid. I think CGTrader just has to advertise itself more.. everything else will fall into place.. CG traders designer rank rep points. tax on top of a high 60% that TS keeps. Anyway, there is still some ocasional Turbosquid fanboy that bashes CGtrader and promotes Turbosquid in public forums and social media while writes this in TS forums at the same time: Order 3D models. And even if you sell the same models on other side you can advertise them as being the cheapest here. TS beside ripping off taxes have a terrible support, I just was told in the civilized manner to F OFF, as I complained on an admin who kept my 3D model suspended for over 4 days. i think they both have there place . Checkmate is the only good thing Turbosquid has left to offer. You don't even seem to get reputation points for purchasing items, assuming I've read the page correctly, and if that is the case it's just dumb. And it offers a more strategic dimension. Some people mistaken de renders for real items already, can imagine how that would be on Ebay or amazon. Another thing that drove me crazy about Turbosquid was how you couldn't promote any of your social media and it made it very difficult to get your clients from let's say Facebook and Twitter to notice your artwork. I like this site more, because, firstly, it has a much more pleasant and understandable interface, gives a higher percentage of the sale (on a TS, it looks more like a tip if you are not a member of their club), and generally it works more stable. He bought a cheap product (with a fake account) and post a bad rating. It is likely that people will want to try out new things in their stores from time to time. TurboSquid has stopped working in WM and lost some buyers in the middle East countries and Asia. Toys (212) Buy or download free 3D models for your CG projects, film and video production, animation, visualizations, games, VR/AR, and others. I'm not a modeler, I come here to buy models and this site is surprisingly obtuse when it comes to layout. The advance search option should obviously only be available for paid models so to avoid people only free loading and just finding all the free models. I dare to bed that those hoe left CGtrader a year ago to sign some exclusive contract to get the money a little bit faster will regret that decision rely badly next year. Luckily, non of my sells on TS were refunded so far and i had 3 refunds on CGT, 2 of them was caused by technical reasons from CGT side. These changes are part of the new TurboSquid Best Price Guarantee (https://resources.squid.io/?p=14893) in which we are assuring TurboSquid customers that they can always find the lowest prices on our site. Turbosquid is basically a pyramid scheme for the most part unless you are established and have been in the top rank for many years. Hi there, just want to ask about the artstation store, do they have a condition of not selling on other store? I read here on the forum can't remember if it was Iterate CGI or someone else said that CGTrader will soon sell on Amazon and I can't wait for it to happen!! It is a wonder how people still haven't fixed bugs like that after so many years and it made the whole uploading process a total hassle. It is all about customer reputation and perception. Of course, as CGT reputation grows, this may change in the future (CGTrader has already beaten The3Dstudio in terms of statistics, but you also have to take into account that there are certainly a very significant amount of people coming here for 3D-printing only, which decreases the statistics in terms of regular CG models). No frankly, it's a bloody mystery. I think CG Trader should remain working with printing, however, it's main concern should be CG :D, I would opt for a system that integrates different stores each with its own label/trademark placed under one common trademark (for sake of organization and readability), CGtraders main trademark would then function as a placeholder/main hub for many different sub stores. Doesn't seem so. I don't know how reputation points work for sellers, they may work fine if you're an actual modeler, but for end-users it's just a dead-end. It takes way too long to put up any files. Ts went head on and contacted me (I was probably among list of targeted folks at that time, Ts previously also contacted me to make some shady deals which I rejected), now they requested me to lower my prices according to new price grantee model. I posted my first model today and have to say it was a very pleasant experience. There is indeed much structural work that needs to be done here but the core foundation/principal is here. Hi John, you made very valid points. Searching for specific terms applying to a specific model, the results on Google are nearly on first page. I think I like the another item the modeler has created (Modern Villa), but that item is $40. Click here to submit yours . CGtrader delivers the best basic structure to bring fort this new and healthy next gen market place. High hopes for Cgtrader. I agree structural arrangements need to be done to support this bud it needs to be done in a way so it supports the main axiom of openness. I tried to contact the buyer several times with no response. Not that I like it or want to have my objects "borrowed". Open a Support Ticket, Licensing questions?Contact your Shutterstock Customer Success Manager. Just condemn this type of fear tactics right-away and start supporting better organizations. For myself, long live CGTrader and may they keep their principles as they grow. just needs more publicity.. us designers need to market the site with our products at the rate one of my designs is going ill have more facebook likes/shares than the website itself has on one design In the long run I'm going to quit selling on TS also. [google7|http://www.google.com] In fact, 61% comes out against 40%, since the paypal commission on cgtrader is borne by the seller, the site pays commission on turbosquid. They're doing competitions, and that attracts artists, at least. Unless you have a huge ass :) You can not keep all aspects of these markets covered, so you will only be average on all of them or even worse. CGTrader remains a young and very responsive team and listening to members - it's a great quality. Yes, sometimes your points are not displayed for a day or two, but there were problems with the rating of models. or I can just sell on cgt and artstationm marketplace? IT'S A WASTE OF TIME. Thanks again guys, and let us know if you have any further comments or questions. I am new starter here. Of course if you are buying models for the next Transformers movie the poly count won't matter that much because those models may be 500,000 each and you have almost unlimited resources to run those. taken offline. A few months went by with my models offline and during that time my GCt sales gradually went up at a level consistent with the few sales I had left behind on Ts so I just deleted all my models at Ts. Yes CGtrader is great! I don't know how reputation points work for sellers, they may work fine if you're an actual modeler, but for end-users it's just a dead-end. Everything about it is ugly, i just sell a model on cgTrader and another model on Turbosquid, cgtrader gives me 71% and i feel ok , turbosquid gives me 40% and i feel like i get raped, besides its tedious way of uploading methods im done with those guys, i will stick with CGtrader, thanks for the information, still 60 to 40 is a big difference. Recently I've been trying to contact my old clients and buyers and although they still have an interest in my models they don't quite trust CGT with their money. I'm probably leaving this site for good, but it won't be because of you guys - it's because of the site itself. Thingiverse remains the king for licensing, as you can transfer the licence within the site. This is a photorealistic high-quality 3D full-body scan female character, rigged People SixPack 003 - Photogrammetry Population Character Rig, max blend c4d xsi ma lwo 3ds dae dxf fbx obj X, City People x500 Static Poses Lowpoly ArchViz, 20x LOW POLY CASUAL ELEGANT SITTING WOMAN MAN PEOPLE CROWD, Realistic White Male and Female Head Bundle. Then someone ells will just create another CGt alike and Ts would have to keep buying these places ones a year, and after that it would have to buy them every month. A own store where you can fill your offers with stuff found in the large pool would account for a thumbs up for the people hoes products get placed in those stores. I was thinking about searching for specific 3d models through a site like Google, not generic visitation standing of a whole site, which in itself doesn't tell anything about what clients look for. The paypal commission is paid 2 times - 1 when the model is bought, 2 times - when money is paid to the seller. Although I agree the presentation of CGtraders home page is heavily focused at 3D printing, NoneCG did not suffer ANY drop in sales. Our "power struggles" with Turbosquid stopped the moment Matt Wisdom banned our account and we stoped doing business, however that doesn't alter our will to expose this kind of business practices. Similar thing happened to me,that's why i'm at CGtrader full time now. Remember The3DStudio? I was victim of that there a few months ago, I had a bad rating when the model have never had a problem during many years. Why is CGTrader better? Hopefully this will start another interesting discussion . - Are you interested in just some quick cash grabs and extras here and there while you can, or would you like to be able to contribute to a fair market where you can make a living out of your passion? TS can go to Hell, and never return again. If you are doing really bad with sales they let you do whatever you want but if you are doing well they step in and make things difficult. Maybe they should just smack up one big "We're cheaper than TurboSquid" banner and push it into Google Ads? I wouldn't ever use their site just on principle. This is a bit OT, but although I obviously ain't a squidguild member, I always try to design objects that are "checkmate" compliant to be sure that my models are OK, and I also beta test the .OBJ version in a lot of other applications that LW to be sure that they upload without hassle) Hopefully we can find a way that would plrase all sides. Yes, buyers has free will to express their opinion about model, but in case of negative feedback such opinion should be reasonable and motivated. Turbosquid has the traffic and so you get the sails. So the staff there tries to work The response back was, if they are not adjusted end of the week then we will adjust them. I will search on TS and when found right model I will maybe look at cgtrader if there is that same model for cheaper. I'm afraid the end of Ts is near and nothing can stop it, maybe the best they can do is raise royalty's to 80% for all sellers, but then again if they don't change the censorship policy's they are applying right now then it will probably not be enough to stop the downfall in the long run. That definitely wasn't me hoe said that turbo. User experience and User interface is much better to manage your store, and higher royalty. At the moment i think its more a community of sellers and not so much of buyers. Of course if you have a PC with quad processors over 16 GB of ram things will be different but be warned students and low end users. @IterateCGI These are great ideas and in fact we are currently working on one campaign that will involve the community to help market CGTrader better. Brittney Turbosquid immediately shuts any links down. This is why: I think that subsequently only large studios and squidguild members will remain there" I am going to start a list to promote artists who are making great models but just aren't getting the views. CG trader is the first helpfull professional website I've seen in 20 years. It's sad cgtrader promote only printing models and forget about regular models. CGT is the only website that really understand both the artists and customer needs! It's all fine and CGT rocks the socks off the competition. Personally, I will never sign up to exclusive contracts, others should always get chances to maybe offer better job if they can. Using TurboSquid 3D Models in Virtual Worlds. They have more traffic so i'm told. And reasons can be any. Rank improvement compared to previous 3 months: http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/cgtrader.com +5,816, http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/turbosquid.com +1,026. but outside of the fact cgtrader is 95% designers and 5% customers its way better and easier to use more professional looking and feeling. To my amazement something ells also happened, there where still a few people buying my more expensive models on Ts. Dear Kanga you are absolutely right and on top of that you won't have to worry about their super buggy uploading system either. I see no point in closing when you might as well keep it open and get a couple sales. And if the buyer sees one and the same model on CGT and on TS, then the price will choose on CGTrader Personally, I felt I in no way infringed on said IP. You have insufficient credit to complete your purchase. for someone that is a little more unique. what you say doesn't make any sense because CGTrader has a 100 percent guarantee return policy on all models as far as I know. They may not end up following your ideas, but they will certainly take them into account. And at the same time, if they periodically do something here, try to add something new, then the TS, as long as I remember it, does not particularly try to become convenient (But at the same time it takes most of the profit !!!). Also don't forget that people sell their photos and posters too. https://garagedoorrepairchesapeake.com/garage-door-replacement/. Anybody else suffered the same blows to their sales in the same months as the web updates? Say you happen to be a great render and lighting specialist but not so well a modeler, you see this nice models that have potential but the presentation is very bad (from good modeler with no render skills). It's true. 60% is an insult. Just my fifty cents. For example, I ran into this this morning. Because of its design and trade/royalty system, CGTrader seems better and more advantageous, but at the end of the day, I get much more income from Turbosquid and The3Dstudio. What insane kind of practice is that, who owns the work then? This place is indeed different and allot closer to what we actually need, I can't imagine the core principal on witch this place is founded would change as it will prove to be the one and only way to be future proof in this supper connected world. Rigged 3D models are available in Autodesk 3ds Max (.max), Maya (.ma), Softimage (.xsi), Cinema 4D (.c4d) and many other file formats. Change Method. About TS: google3 If a company like Disney or NASA buys a model at TS, they advertise it as "Turbosquid customers buying Turbosquid models". See ourPrivacy Policyfor more information. Such an arrogant attitude. Important detail : CGTrader allows communication between customers and sellers ! See ourPrivacy Policyfor more information. All because of search. Thanks for sharing Your experience and thoughts. CGTrader. To be honest, when I first found this site a few days ago I was really excited. Fact is, the best is where is can make the most sales. And to be fair, you will never get exact 40% from squid either, because they have payout fees too and also they withold certain amount from US purchases. Here it is quite seamless and elegant. I'll ask my friend to get in touch with you for the unsolved support, as I think it is him who has to do that - not me. Fantasy is a bit better, but sic-fi gets me 10 copyright infringements on the first page alone (star wars characters, mainly). Part of it is because they don't want to get scammed. Imagine how much resorces and efforts are used by those clowns for this greedy Best price quality nonsense. TurboSquid. Both are still growing, but it seems CGtrader is growing much more. Work directly with a 3D artist for your project. Every market needs time, every business needs it. What I eventually hope to have is a healthy fair open market place, where collaboration , communication, people empowerment and evolution prevails over control systems, central power structures, monopolistic thinking, and maintaining of a status qou. Basically just like Turbosquid has done they have become the one stop shop for everything. Sketchfab.com-------------------------------. As every site takes a small cut from the sales of a model. In short I propose an integration of global search ore collections made by designers. How about Negotiated price? - Once in a while, alert all designers that a cleaning operation will be made, and wipe out objects that are of a too bad quality or copyright infringements. However, I will agree that sales here aren't as good as TS. We are looking for contributors. Cgtrader cannot compare to certain 3d markets. Gritsuk : Hello Friends, glad to present you my model Female Hand Realistic. ! Downside at CGTrader is as i've just been informed from Support is NO you can't sell the licence here and transfer it into another users name. That basically says paying customers aren't allowed access to supposedly "free" items. I've often (not just at this site) downloaded "free" items to verify their quality before purchasing models from a vendorI had problems with 3-4 of the "free" items I looked at first here (having no idea there was a limit), and now I can download no more. So what I did was simply adding the 60% cut to the product on Ts. Very soon there will be robots that can scan objects faster than any modeler can model them and then reproduce a print almost instantly in 10 to 30 years 3D jobs will be irrelevant but until then someone needs to really bring CGtrader to the big markets. There is other sellers that don't have any problem doing the same: Exclusivity to any marketplace has been proved a revenue loss. Royalty rate of CGTrader allows the seller to make a model cheaper than on TurboSquid. Adult Female Jessy Rigged 3D Model 9. Since you havent contacted us about any of these changes being incorrect, we are resetting prices on these models one final time (see the attached CSV file listing these models). I didn't checked it for a while (around a year) but comparatively Cgtrader has a much more streamlined upload system compared to Turbosquid's. (so you basically pay for a fraud protection system for people hoe sell themselves out exclusively). You could say CGt is a service platform that harbors and connects sellers and buyers of specific digital goods, in theory there's no limit to how much people and their digital products/services they could connect. I believe this would solve the 'bad content mixed with the quality models' problem. They will be very enlightening and useful to you especially if you have never built 3D models and don't know what to expect. found jet another working example that makes CGt stand out. You can enter multiple email addresses separated by commas, Thank you for shopping at TurboSquid. royalty scale you work up on is all very cool the fact you can print here sell files here and stream files all on one listing CG TRADER FOR THE WIN!!! Let's give some time to time. Most small or midsized companies I worked with, did their best to cap their scene polygons at no more 500,000 all models included. Then I contacted Eduardas and Mantas who refused to remove the rating, just 2 years ago still existed. Ah crap, not sure how that referal spam sneaked into turbosquid link, here is the clean one: https://www.turbosquid.com/3d-models/cathedral-paris-notre-dame-3d-obj/933856, I think that subsequently only large studios and squidguild members will remain there. They bring answers to your problems or requests quite fast and in a very convivial way. - Limiting, perhaps, the number of objects that can be uploaded in a row, to avoid having the front page confiscated by a single seller when ticking the "newest" filter. This conversation has me glued to my monitor, all very well spoken and nailed down to the core. just share your links (: I like both but prefer cgtrader all day. TS has bather page rank, when someone searches the net it will come on top, simple because it is an older website. Thanks once again! 3. That is very strong argument in favor of CGT, but then again, don't you think that corporate client would rather choose to get support from team of profesionals that are available 24/7, than from unknown person, who might respond with big delay or not respon at all? Here is a quick test that can help understand why there aren't so many buyers. Cheap and free models are killing cgtrader. If you think life is hard as a buyer you should try modeling for a living Making any money is a truly miserable experience. I do agree with you regarding the search engine. Sometime buyer in frustration just leave bad review on the model for issues that can be solved easily, but since he cant contact seller he thinks he cant do anything about it and he wasted his money. But i think its not only the responsability of cgtrader to turn this around. There is plenty of "undercutters" everywhere and some short-sighted content developers that seem to only care about quick cash-grabs and most of the time doesn't even have enough data to state a valid opinion based on the contrast of facts over medium-long periods of time. Get this item for $ when you bundle it with the items in your cart. CGt embraces all modern communication technologies which is critical to establish such a place. What I read on different forums seems obvious, exclusivity no longer pays. @Supercigale, this is worrying to read, i think such things shouldn't happen. Also you need to think about the advantage of not having to worry about shipping costs etc with digital art. I remember fighting them at length to try to put my brand name withing the model description or my website link and eventually lost the battle. Do not forget to check out rigged vehicles, guns and other objects, including environments, in addition to rigged characters to increase the control and interactivity you can achieve in your project. But hey thats your call, That's sad, but true. although, the 3d printing industry is growing rapidly :D. I have to agree. "TurboSquid Support, Jun 20, 08:14 SST: CGt basically needs to be good at one thing, "facilitating a sales platform". There are tons of things better here on CGtrader, most notably we get served very well for extremely low cost. The people at the top of the pyramid scheme bully all the new modelers who show any sales success because they barely scrape by as it is so it is really bad work environment to work for Turbosquid is not worth your time. rigged People SixPack 003 - Photogrammetry Population Character Rig, Realistic Human Body Basemesh - UVMapped - Rigged, CARTOON MAN AND WOMAN - TOON MOTHER AND FATHER, Worker Mining Safety Female - Bella - Harness, Naked Fitness Blonde Woman with Tied Hair.